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Larry Bushard's avatar

I have been saying for months that one of two things will happen:

1. He loses the election and his lawyers move to have him declared “non compis mentís” and unable to participate in his own defense, thus escaping prosecution for his multitude of crimes, or

2. He “wins” the election and he is 25A’d by Vance in February 2025 and subsequently pardoned for any federal crimes by the new prez.

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iglue's avatar

Wel, he does not understand humanitarian anything, on principle.

Predator's principle. Other people having rights or dignity does not appeal to him. Not sure he even conprehends that idea.

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Earlene Millier's avatar

I read somewhere that it's likely Trump made a deal with JD Wentworth, I mean, Vance, that, if he wins, Trump will step aside, making JD President, and JD will pardon Trump. Any thoughts on that?

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Wayne Koberstein's avatar

Note to Substack: After I restacked this post, the inner page showed the restack icon as green, but on the outer page, the icon stubbornly remains not green despite my repeated clicks. Glitch?

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EuphmanKB's avatar

The only act Trump is capable of is the one set up decades ago under Roy Cohn’s tutelage; deny, deflect and attack. Trump’s actions are insidiously selfish, but very predictable.

However, the “conservative” program for moneyed interests to take control of the government set up by Lewis Powell in the early 1970’s is even more insidious, but is also not as predictable as Trump is on its face. The advent of Trump and his mental decline is an unintended consequence that offers a serendipitous opportunity for them.

First, JD Vance was intentionally planted as Trump’s running mate by the “conservative” coalition for the event that Trump went away for any reason after being elected. Second, with Trump’s mental decline becoming more evident by the day and the extreme unlikelihood that he would voluntarily step down before or after the election, Vance’s sole role is to make sure that Trump gets elected by any available means.

However, after Trump is elected, assuming he is elected, the circumstances change radically. FEDSOC and Leonard Leo along with SCOTUS encouragement and support are fully prepared to shove an Article 25 removal down Trump’s throat and install their selected poster child, Vance, as president. The Lewis Powell “conservative” alliance of money, business and religious interests has been preparing for such an opportunity for nearly 50 years and will not miss capitalizing on it if it’s presented. Project 2025 and more will be effected by Vance, et al, without a second thought.

MSM is and has been a critical element of the “conservative” coalition from the beginning and will not do or say anything that negatively impacts Trump’s reelection, while doing everything they can to derail Harris. Hence their published positions thus far.

Yeah, I know this sounds like another conspiracy story, but before you react, let’s continue working like hell to make sure Trump is not placed in the presidency and plan for the possibility that something like the above could occur. After all, a coup is a coup is a coup and surprise coups don’t happen in a vacuum.

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Geoff Anderson's avatar

I would only add that JD Vance was elevated not by the FEDSOC and Leonard Leo so much as the Plutarch/Oligarch class of Tech Billionaires, and it just so happens that the recent Catholic convert that Vance is, also aligns to the proclivities of the FEDSOC crowd.

Oh, and one of the reasons I dislike George Conway is his history as an active and aggressive member of the FEDSOC crowd. He had a huge hand in handing us Trump, and the current skew on the SCOTUS, and no amount of Never Trump whitewashing will get that stench off of him.

Great comment!

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EuphmanKB's avatar

True as to specifically referencing FEDSOC. However, FEDSOC is only one of several integral players in the “conservative coalition,” including the Plutarch/Oligarch and tech billionaires that you mentioned, including Theil, Vance’s principal sponsor, and virtually all of corporate America (both the corporate entities themselves and their respective boards, CEO’s and senior officers), and the horde of lawyers, consultants, think tanks, nonprofits and lobbyists, etc., that service the business and moneyed player’s political and economic interests. (As I’m writing this, it occurred to me that it’s almost easier to say everyone except voting eligible consumers and people as a group are members of the “conservative coalition.” 🫣)

The “conservative” coalition acts like the shadow “factions” contemplated by the Founders during the times the Constitution and Bill of Rights were drafted and adopted. But, the coalition is not generally recognized as such by the general public, if the general public can even visualize and recognize its existence and raw economic power. Both Republican and Democratic players are active participants in the coalition’s largesse either as “conservative” members (which are distinctly different from the “conservative coalition” members) of their respective parties, or as recipients of campaign financing support, or both. Money, profits, political control, judicial control and raw economic power have proven to be incredibly powerful drivers and the people have none of those.

Until the advent of Trump I was a registered Republican for more than 50 years. It’s only after Trump’s ascendancy that I’ve dug into what is actually going on in politics, etc., even though I was an active player in the banking and investment real estate communities starting in 1970. I had a peripheral awareness of the events that created the “conservative coalition” and worked closely with many of the players who were involved, but I wasn’t involved directly.

After some serious digging, my hypothesis is that the “conservative coalition” is so insidiously inculcated into the American and global philosophical and actual systems of governance, business, law and politics that I’m struggling to think their power can be repelled even if Trump loses. Consumers and people, nominally the voting eligible citizens and residents taken as a group, have been beaten down for so long that they may not be able to understand, recover, organize and capitalize to fight and win an existential battle that’s been under way for nearly 50 years before the “conservative coalition’s” coup happens. Whatever occurs after that is a very unsettling mystery that our children and their children will need to resolve because other than a hollowed out Constitution and Bill of Rights, there aren’t many guardrails and institutional memories left to guide them or use.

Grins!

Ken Barry, aka EuphmanKB

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Ingrid Walker's avatar

I don't think Trump is pretending to be insane. He's not a good actor. His narcissistic ego would never allow him to admit he has anything wrong with him. He is in the process of publicly disintegrating and there is nobody in his inner circle/family trying to help him.

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Kay-El's avatar

Agent Orange: “Political asylum, insane asylum, tomato, tomahto”

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Erin's avatar

The "insanity defense" also isn't quite how it's portrayed. At best he'd get leniency from being in maximum security, maybe, or be declared not competent to stand trial, but as far as the actual charges go the defence requires that due to a "mental defect" either the person did not know what they were doing or that they didn't know it was wrong at the time the were doing it. So he'd actually have to have his attorneys argue that he hadn't aced the minimum cognitive function test he brags about or that he's got a low IQ. That is literally never going to happen.

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Erin's avatar

I should add that if he's found not competent to stand trial but then miraculously recovers he then becomes eligible to be tried again. He'd have to act this way for the rest of his life.

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Anna Vinson's avatar

What acting ??

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Michael McGuire's avatar

Thanks for posting this. You have got me thinking so I appreciate what you've written.

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Nightmaher's avatar

Had that thought myself for years. The shit he says automatically builds his insanity defense. But, he doesn’t have the ability to let himself be thought of as a loon. In his mind he’s already the best word guy of our lifetime!

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Kevin Robbins's avatar

The thought of him faking it has crossed my mind, too. He doesn’t really have a reason to tho. Even if he’s convicted on serious criminal charges the appeals would keep him out of prison until well past his expiration date. Even with conviction, considering his age and former position, he’d get some form of house arrest.

I really, really want to see the architects of the coup effort start getting some time in the slammer and some trials going on them to get all the shit into the judicial record.

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Mommadillo's avatar

We should be so lucky.

Nope - he’s really just that nuts. And just that close to returning to power. What the FUCK is wrong with us?

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Anna Vinson's avatar

Stop following all the SocM ranting and raving. Just be here now, lovingly

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TweedleDee's avatar

Oh I forgot Vance will somehow get Don Jr. a White House position VP?

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John Boyd's avatar

The collar and sleeves of that white bathrobe would soon be coated with day-glo orange bronzer. Which would enhance the whole batshit crazy look he'd be going for.

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Geoff Anderson's avatar

Damn right!

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Adam's avatar

You're talking like SHAFT!?!

Well, I can dig it!

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Susan Niemann's avatar

😂 It's a theory ... but I think he's too dumb and Jack Smith is just waiting to nail him. I do think the theory of the 25th Amendment-should Dump win- installing Justa Dick Vance after the win is plausible.

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TweedleDee's avatar

Oh absolutely They know Trump is now impossible for them to control. They (Kevin Rogers and Lenard Leo) got Vance to where he is today, They’re using Trumps base to possibly get him elected, once in ( never 🤞🏽) Trump will dismantle any government and civil positions, he’ll pardon himself out of. All the charges against him( will help from his loyalist stuffed judges and courts) .Then Vance or Holy Mike will enforce the 25th on him. Throw him out before The4th of July (. I feel Trump is aware of. This) , Than Trump support res are going to have JDVance . My own crazy conspiracies lol .

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Geoff Anderson's avatar

That and the hit to his ego would be far too much for him to bear.

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TweedleDee's avatar

Nah if Maga goes down Putin is going to poison him, plus a few others.

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Kevin Robbins's avatar

If Trump doesn’t win Putin is going to have enough problems of his own avoiding falls from high places.

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